Why I despite communism and maybe why you should also..

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Hi,

there have been some articles around in leofinance.io shilling communism and the benefits of it, some interesting read is the one of @edicted that can be read in here. No one ever talked about the bad things it had done and it is continue on doing and that with every try to implement it, it only brings misery and pain with it.

As, like a few others in here, I was born in a communist country, at the economical downfall of it. It was a harsh time, especially that I was coming from a former bourgeois family of intellectuals, where my grandfather was a teacher at the medicine university in Bucharest and one of his brothers teaching engineering at another one. Brother was killed by the red liberation army and my grandfather was forced to work as a veterinary for the rest of his life in some forgotten stables and this are only from my fathers side. From my mothers side it has been worse as my grandfather was forced to flee Cernăuți, now in the Ukraine, after the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact that was the actual start of WW-II was signed. His brothers new better and remained only to get a bullet behind their head and end up in a mass grave. Yes, no discrimination for all, that is right.

Why this little story? Because this add up to the official 100 million deaths caused by communism. Here are not taken into account the hunger deaths in the Ukraine and the casualties in the WW II as the soviets won the war and all could be put on Germany, where the war was started by both of them in an equal matter.

You will see the invasion of the Soviets in the picture bellow, where they have liberated a part of Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and Romania. Also they've liberated a fair amount of power by killing a lot of people, like the massacre of Katyn or Fântâna Albă. During this communist reshaping over 1 million people died in 2 years only in this area of Europe.

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And this is not all, all over it was like this, everywhere with it's own version, from the red Khmer in Cambodia, to the FARC in Columbia, from North Korea, to Cuba, everywhere the same outcome with different approach, death, misery and economical failure.

To put the official number of deaths in perspective, as said, they are talked down:

  • 3 Chernobyl disasters every hour for 100 years
  • a Nagasaki atombombing each month for 100 years
  • 850+ Iraq wars
  • or the most blowing number, WW I for 9 times

There is also the economical aspect of it, none of the countries in communism have ever managed to run efficient on an economical side, none. All countries in communism now, have the wast majority of the population in misery, see North Korea, Cuba or Venezuela. People will come with China, and yes, beside the millionaires friendly to the party, there are over 1 billion people living in poverty. Also China is more capitalistic compared to a lot of states, by acquiring a lot of companies in the Western World.

All countries coming out of communism have a strong deficit in terms of infrastructure and industrial efficiency.
Best example is Germany who was split in half for 50 years. After 30 years of reunification there is a big gap between the territories and a lot of people are poorer in the East compared to the West.
Everything was run down in this 50 years.

Another good example are the Baltic States,which have been considered the flagship of the Soviet Union, next to Donbas, Moscow and St. Petersburg. It was a lot of industry in the area, but still it was not competitive after the iron curtain fell. The industry was built up only to produce, no matter the output, the quality and efficiency. It was build only to keep people busy.
Same as in Romania, where the country had no debt, but the debt was cleared by not investing into production facilities. Imagine running with a 30-40 year old tech nowadays. In the age where you need one guy to run a factory and this is the maintenance guy, running with an output of over 30% scrap is a killer.

Now I did summarize in short the pain and the results of it, but I need to go into the whys.

Why is communism not working?

Well, because it is fundamentally against nature, we are not equal and will never be equal, no matter what we do, and this is a good thing, as there is evolution. There is a drive for individual achievement and I don't speak about humans only, I speak about the whole life and the universe itself as it is build. Look at the planets and stars, everything is revolving around power and the bigger a star is, the more impact it has in the universe. Now going back to the more mundane life, like wolfs, the Alpha is the leader and he decides, it is his duty to guide the pack, as a Beta will probably lead it to perish. I don't say that a Beta is not necessary, on the contrary, the Beta has important duties as well, but not that of an Alpha. He can strive to become an Alpha, of course, and this is called evolution. Where when all are equal, evolution is slowed to the point of non-existence.

If we are all paid equal, no matter what we do, why shall we strive,why do the hard work when we can let someone else do it. It is nature and the self-preservation is our instinct. But if we now that compensation will be higher if we work harder and smarter, we will do it. We are living in a somehow socialist (not communism) world, where we work for some other persons that are lazy and prefer to be sustained by the state. Here I don't mention the sick ones, that need our help, but working for a guy that prefers to stay at home rather then wiping elders asses that need help, I can't understand.

With the idea of having all the means of production shared in the same amount to the workers, it can work, as people will see this shares different and act different. Most will go for quick profits rather than long term investments. Recently we've seen this at the LBI voting for keeping taking profit out for now against instant profit, where the smaller stakes have voted for immediate profits, where the higher accounts have been for building up. This is human nature, which is driven by greed and impulses. We can overcome this by thinking on the long run, but we need to have a stake into the matter that we paid for it.

No one stops people from a factory to quit in masses and buy another factory and operate it by themselves, no one! As most people will simply not do it as it involves risk and potential loss of the investment, so why shall someone else pay for you if you are not willing to take the risk?

In my point of view, communism, besides the misery is the hand brake of evolution and free thinking as nothing is needed if the others can come with it. It is the accelerator to poorness, laziness and society fail as the majority are risk and work adverse and they pull the ones with visions back. Could we have seen Elon Musk succeed in a Communist environment? Most probably not...

How do you see it? I would like to have a constructive discussion in the comments with arguments for both views.

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History has shown that all extremism, right or left, has brought only destruction and malaise. Democracy is the only way forward.
Excellent article @alexvan
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Agree, all extremism, no matter the wing, was and is bad!

Thank you for dropping by!

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A matter of grammar again? Am I an extremist, when I'm extremist freedom? Have you read, listened or watched Dan Milman's Peaceful Warrior? Extreme!! !ENGAGE 10 !invest_vote !WINE !JUICE !PUREWATER !FRESHAIR

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Is impossible to deny history and it did teach us how dangerous is communism and that never had worked, just for a few.

Is time to move on and ex-soviet countries have made the smartest decision to switch to capitalism and freedom. Now, they are a good example of how a country should be structured and organized.

The perfect form of government doesn't exist but at least people are free and living a good life.

Sorry to hear about your personal story.

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Thank you for dropping by. I was feeling only portions of it, as my parents was trying to make the best there was. We knew we had Christmas when we could eat a banana, that was mostly smuggled and overpriced. :)

We shall see what the future might bring.

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I live in pariah Venezuela and know first hand the horrors of fucking "communism"

Regards bro.

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I don't want to talk about communism anymore, I ended up living in this society for 45 years. Extremism is dangerous, often mixing the left with the right but always representing the interests of some groups. Your image for the society dominated by the alpha leader, as it happens in nature, with animals may be true but I don't like it. But most of all I dislike what seems to be wanted for the future, I see in many posts now, the idea of absolute freedom, and this inoculated with interest, on the idea of decentralization in all aspects of future life and which, at least from a political perspective, I I think it will become anarchy. Unfortunately, there are now all the tools to manipulate the masses much more successfully, more successfully than Lenin and Hitler did, just to talk about Europe.

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I mean I would never argue for complete communism you at least need some free markets for sure.

However I think Communism gets a bad rep because of the Russians. They are actually one of the few cultures I hold strong prejudice against. I love Putin and think he is maybe the greatest statesman of our time, but the average Ivan hates my guts and I hate his. I don't even really know why.

I was once robbed as a 16 year old by a pack of Russians. I once got into a fight with a drunken Russian (at 13:00 midday) and I almost split his skull open, because he harassed me that hard. These two are some of the most violent memories of my childhood and they both involve Russians.

Russians are fucking animals.

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However I think Communism gets a bad rep because of the Russians. They are actually one of the few cultures I hold strong prejudice against.

And the Chinese with the Maoistic revolution, and the North Koreans, the Red Khmers in Cambodia, Ceausescu in Romania..basically almost everywhere it was present. :)

I have also good friends that are Russians, even if the Bolsheviks did a lot of harm to my family like said. Some other sad example was my aunt (sister of grandma),who was rapped by a whole troop in WW II and went nuts after that. People in general are savages. The National-Socialist did also a lot of harm, the only difference was the better documentation compared to the communist.


Yes, different nations act and think different, we as humans are different and this is a good thing inmho. I won't put a blame on a nation as each has it fails and wonders, some more, some less, but the individual is always the one who shapes his world, which in communism is just a figure.

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different nations act and think different, we as humans are different and this is a good thing inmho.

Yeah I would second that. A main reason for me being anti-globalist is that I think the differences in cultures is a good thing.

Maybe we should clarify that when I talk of socialism I am talking of the socialism West Germany had in the 60s and not full blown communism. I would want certain industries to not be subject of the free market: water, electricity, phone/internet, public transport, banking and that's about it.

Furthermore I would not identify with any left-wing camp at the moment. They are all just a parody of what leftism should really be about.

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This is a waste of time, if you ask me, because collectivists don't understand even the simplest grammar, yet. And since it is not about war but about opportunity costs, even many individualists don't. My hope is proper grammar. And not the grammar one may think at first, but one of the seven liberal arts grammar. Wanna play a game instead? Let's have some fun!

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They stop at T in Trivium, as you already say. :)

Sadly people need to experience the horror of it where the possessions are being taken.

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Exactly. Thanks for your reply. What I find to be an important concept to deal with loss and sadness is mourning. Many things are sad, right. Yet we can do something about it by mourning. The grown up rule herewith is: Do no harm. So we can do this privately and with like-minded friends, reflect on it, and then bring joy back into the equation.

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I believe Communism was created with good intentions, but obviously it has not worked. Many governments are corrupt, even supposedly free ones. We do need freedom to do as we wish if we are to live a good life. We also need the motivation of increased rewards if we do well. From what I understand, your Grandfather had no choice in where he worked?

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