Usecases for POB is a must but first step - Ad revenue .

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Good afternoon to everyone , I hope you all are doing good :)

Today's post is going to be about advertisement and about usecases for POB token .

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Usecase

Take any cryptocurrency , if people are buying it ( except dogecoin :p ) it is because it solves a particular problem or in other words it provides a usecase.

  1. Bitcoin ? The mother of all the cryptocurrency exists because people are using it either as a store of value or to make transactions without banks .

  2. Ethereum ? It popularized the "smart contracts" . Although the fees is insane , people are still using it .

Our own -

LEO

The tribe token of Hive which rewards the users for their Financial articles

  • But where can LEO be used ? Right now , in CubDefi - You can pair it with BNB or other tokens to earn CUB .
  • Initially you could buy LBI token using LEO , that's another usecase .
  • You can stake it and delegate to @brofi to earn BRO everyday , that's another usecase .

BRO

  • The investment token built on top of Hive which provides dividends to its holders.

SIM

  • A token which can be used in the game Dcity as ingame currency .

POB

Now what can you do with POB apart from selling it ?

Currently you can do these things -

  1. Stake it to increase the upvote value ( Which will let you earn more POB )
  2. Stake it and delegate to @brofi to earn BRO .
  3. Burn it to promote your posts ( In the hope of earning more POB )
  4. You can delegate it to some other projects ( Like my own Engagement project ) to earn POB as dividends.

If I missed any , feel free to let me know in comments

But if you observe closely , 3 out of 4 POB usecases are within POB ecosystem itself and not linked to the real world outside of it .

Why do people sell POB for Hive ? Because they can use Hive to buy other tokens or sell it on exchange for their fiat or invest Hive in BRO , SPI , INDEX , UTOPIS etc .

Those who believe in the POB will keep on staking no matter what the price is but sooner or later , down the road we will have to find usecases for POB through which we can buy stuff like say buying books , buying smart-phones etc .

Ad revenue

I believe that this is the first step we must take . I will tell you why but before that -

Why Ads?

I mean why not ? POB front-end is getting traffic , we all know it , why waste that traffic ? Currently we aren't earning anything from traffic and I think it is a mistake .

Let us turn that traffic into money and use that money to help POB even more .

I talked to @proofofbrainio about this and suggested him to try out https://a-ads.com

  1. Why A-ads ? That is one ad-network that pays in BTC so we can directly withdraw the earnings to swap.BTC .
  2. Easy to set up and manage.

We are currently using the same Ad-network on Sportstalksocial and results have been satisfactory .

You can check the latest payout from a-ads to @sports-gov account here -

https://www.sportstalksocial.com/hive-101690/@patrickulrich/new-advertising-payout-for-sportstalksocial-com

How to use the earnings of ads ?

If we decide to display ads on POB then this is my idea ( or suggestion :p)

We can use the BTC earned to reward the contributing members of POB .

( This is just an example , don't take it too literally )

5% to top poster
5% to top commenter
5% to the user who burnt the most POB in that month ( if we take month wise )
5% to the user who distributed lot of votes on POB ( with say minimum 10% weight )
5% to the user who staked the most POB .

This is just an example as I mentioned , it need not be 5% , it need not be the same users who I mentioned above . This is just to spark the discussion about this .

How will this help POB ?

  1. More posts and comments and activity which increases the traffic further .
  2. More burnt POB
  3. More staked POB ( so less liquid ) .

OR

We can use the BTC to buy Amazon cards or some other stuff that the community votes on and sell those in-exchange for POB . The POB exchanged will be burnt .

I always hear people ( myself included) talking about burning the tokens using ad-revenue instead of that we can sell stuff with the same ad-revenue , provide a usecase for POB and also burn the token at the same time .


Loopholes

I know that people can game this system , 5% to the top poster ? Oh okay I will just spam post :)

That is why it is necessary to make a detailed discussion about all of the "criteria" ( like we will elect judges to choose winners or let the community vote for it ? ) etc before making anything official .

All the necessary data will be given by me whenever required or we can always request users like @themarkymark for guidance in this matter who knows a thing or two about tokenomics :p ( check out the STEM tribe tokenomics if you don't know what I am talking about )

But the sooner we think and discuss about all this , the better it is . That's what I feel.


Regards,
MR.


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As far as a-ads goes: let's say I've been posting but I still don't get a share of the proceeds. I would have contributed, so why the f- wouldn't I get anything? Not to mention there is ZERO reason to award anyone for burning POB. There is no reason to do that. POB's value comes exclusively from high quality content.

When you burn POB, your message is "I DON'T BELIEVE IN POB AND I THINK YOU'RE ALL FUCKTARDS WHO WILL NEVER BRING QUALITY THAT CAN RISE POB'S PRICE, SO I WILL BURN IT AS A WAY AROUND YOUR STUPIDITY."

Also, what you've said is not even a use case for POB. It is impossible for non-large stakeholders to grab most of the spots you've mentioned. More importantly, no one would be able to swap POB for anything you've said. However, if the entire proceeds from a-ads were used to buy POB only to burn them, I might be okay with that, at least on first thoughts.

Last but not least, if mark takes over, I will immediately sell my stake and leave, or start heavily abusing every system I can, because it would just going to be another hive story anyway. I condemn you for even attempting to summon him.


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Last but not least, if mark takes over, I will immediately sell my stake and leave,

As soon as any of the dinosaurs of HIVE start having highly influential opportunities to taint the atmosphere here, I'm out. This place has went from strength to strength because it's not trying to repeat the same patterns as before.

So many people are completely missing the point and can't see how DPOS is incredibly flawed. If POB repeats the same behaviors as other tribes, it's just going to be a token with BTC's tokenomics and the same archaic influencers encouraging boring posts with little social value (a dogshit example of Proof Of Brain pretty much).

If this happens, I'll be joining the platform that clones POB and starts fresh. I've said from day 1 that there is nothing stopping someone else from replicating this model. This is the main "threat" to the price everyone is so obsessed with, not the large stakeholders dumping* (because for the most part they are well-balanced and see the long term potential)

I'll go out on a limb and say that some of the larger stakeholders will stop giving a fuck if there is evidence of the platform spinning down the toilet. And best believe that's when the price will hit 0.1.

With regards to burning... read this. Look at the community response.


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I completely agree. We want something different, not the same old.

Thanks for sharing this.
It's good to see users opinion on this.

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the ads in between the comments, no comment

If this happens, I'll be joining the platform that clones POB and starts fresh. I've said from day 1 that there is nothing stopping someone else from replicating this model. This is the main "threat" to the price everyone is so obsessed with, not the large stakeholders dumping* (because for the most part they are well-balanced and see the long term potential)

think the honeymoon phase just ended a few days ago ;)

popcorn


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As soon as any of the dinosaurs of HIVE start having highly influential opportunities to taint the atmosphere here, I'm out. This place has went from strength to strength because it's not trying to repeat the same patterns as before.

I'm on the same boat, @calumam.

I'm just a little fish here, but everyone has to have a position on everything (especially about that).


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Suggestions of running ads to me won't hurt, I mean my brave browser will block them anyway, but then rewarding the community with the revenue? Now that's not so smart ( I'd say dumb actually)

The proofofbrain token is meant for?

It's already meant for rewarding the community in the first place. So we shouldn't need another reward token! It kinda ruins the entire system!

There should be reduction in burning tokens! A token burnt is like an upvote given to oneself, instead of a certain user somewhere getting it, it goes to null, that's actually sad, and in the process curators earn, not do fair!

won't be upvoting burn posts again!


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You didn't get my point .

I was talking about giving a usecase to POB and not to proofofbrain front-end .

You obviously reward the people with POB but what am I gonna use the POB on ? That's what I am focusing on .

Now that's not so smart ( I'd say dumb actually)

Please feel free to provide your smart ideas . I really would appreciate it .


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Never said I had ideas, just saying that this is more of copying what is already in the system!


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How is it copying ?

If you say like that , POB is rewarding people for blogging , isn't that copying other tribes ?

No why ? because POB has different tokenomics and plans , that's what I am trying to tell .

We can't term Using ads as copying , how are we going to use the ad-revenue ? That is important . Although you don't like what I shared , I don't see any other tribe doing that . Who is buying amazon cards in exchange of POB ?

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How do you intend to buy Amazon cards in exchange for POB?

Please don't see this as an attack, it's quite the opposite!

Fine you feel we should run ads, cool, while we earn BTC from running ads, what will the "said" developers bring in that we'd have to pay them in BTC?

Although selling POB is not so scary! Even if $1,000 was dumped, the market will definitely rebound...


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How do you intend to buy Amazon cards in exchange for POB?

That's what , using the ad-revenue . See what I am saying is , let us get the ad-revenue then we can buy amazon cards or similar stuff using that ad-revenue ( because we can buy that using swap.BTC ) . Then we shall sell it to users for POB . So if I am holding say 10 POB and if someone says there is a gift card I can buy , I will definitely be interested .

what will the "said" developers bring in that we'd have to pay them in BTC?

Whatever development we have to make for POB . Right now leprecaun is building the new front-end ( Ecency like ) in exchange for POB because he believes in POB .

Now say next month you get another idea for development and find a developer but he doesn't accept POB at all then we have to pay him in some other crypto right ? How will the owner raise that crypto ? Through ads is one way is my point .

Please don't see this as an attack, it's quite the opposite!

Hey no no not at all , although " it is dumb " remark kinda hurt me lol I totally get your point and would love to discuss this more .

Although selling POB is not so scary! Even if $1,000 was dumped, the market will definitely rebound...

For you and me , it might not matter but I don't think that's the same with huge investors right ? Most of the time traders won't have patience to say oh okay let the market rebound , we shall wait . We cannot neglect any actor in this ecosystem right ?

I hope you are getting what I am trying to tell , I am enjoying this discussion :p

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Yea, definitely getting all you're saying!

My apologies on the inappropriate language tho.

I believe in POB so I wouldn't want to stop any process that will better the community.

Hopefully, if a greater number of people loves this idea then we can give it a try, I honestly want to see POB stand out, that's all...


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Greetings friend, I think your opinion is very valid. The POB system is based on its originality, the use of the brain and the quality of the content. I think that POB is different and unique before all the hive communities.


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More importantly, no one would be able to swap POB for anything you've said. However, if the entire proceeds from a-ads were used to buy POB only to burn them, I might be okay with that, at least on first thoughts.

I said this in my post , I hope you didn't skip reading that part -

We can use the BTC to buy Amazon cards or some other stuff that the community votes on and sell those in-exchange for POB . The POB exchanged will be burnt .

I always hear people ( myself included) talking about burning the tokens using ad-revenue instead of that we can sell stuff with the same ad-revenue , provide a usecase for POB and also burn the token at the same time .


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instead of that we can sell stuff with the same ad-revenue

The only reason I disagree with this is because, in the long-term, POB prices would probably settle around buying those things instead of making/reading high-quality content. I think that could be great on some of the other tribes, though!

Makes total sense but only if you make high quality then only you can buy those using POB right because only then you can earn POB.

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No, you can earn POB by being an author of high quality content or by commenting on posts whose authors award engagement. That's the most important way to earn POB.


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Ah yeah , sorry I guess I didn't frame the sentence right but I was trying to tell the same. :)


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Ads? Doesn't really make it different from other communities, there's need for more brain power since this isn't something that is new on Hive!

Although burning is great, at the initial stage, it feels kinda wrong!

The number of tokens burnt right now has not in anyway stabilize the prize if am being honest!

We're actually slowly moving into the era where burning Tokens to increase its value will become pointless!

Cub burning has been going on, did that help the price during this volatile market?

sport burning, I believe has been going on as well, how's the price actions if am to ask?

To me, running ads isn't what we need here.

Taking advantage of the traffic all feels like jumping to milk money from the activities in here.


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Ads? Doesn't really make it different from other communities, there's need for more brain power since this isn't something that is new on Hive!

I see NO posts talking about this at all . So although my idea might be very terrible , it is a start , isn't it ?

Although burning is great, at the initial stage, it feels kinda wrong!

Yes sir but who would burn ? Have you seen how much POB has been burnt till now ? 2k + that too because of some posts which are made specifically for POB burning .

and you just said you won't be upvoting those again .

sport burning, I believe has been going on as well, how's the price actions if am to ask?

No , sports burning hasn't been going on . The swap.BTC is as it is , we need to pass a proposal for burning them .

To me, running ads isn't what we need here.

I totally understand your view , just tell me what other way we can go about now to raise money for the owner to fund development who won't accept POB .


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My project POB outside POB tries to make this link, and acts as a kind of marketing (even if small) of the community

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Hey buddy. Nice to talk to you again .

Yeah I have come across your project , it's incredible .

But from a usecase point of view I am talking to link the real world.

I mean to say , tell me how you are getting POB out to the actual world? You are converting it to hive and then to fiat and then the person takes it right ?
We are selling POB which means it directly doesn't have a usecase.

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yes, at first i am converting through leodex, but i am spreading about, luckily i can find some artist who likes the concept of the community and wants to be part of it, thus receiving it in POB

In the long run, I want to transform these arts into NFT, and then with the sale of them to put new money into the POB, it is little, but it is something

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it is little, but it is something

That is what matters @vempromundo . Just imagine if every single person contributes in their own way to bring in that "little" amount , that's all we need .


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I liked it a lot and I also mentioned it in an article, it is something that we should take out of habit, speak pob outside of pob, so we can bring more people to the community!


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As far as the use case of POB is concerned I believe that we still have a long way to go. Its just the start, our stats are becoming visible in alexa and there is a need to have a traffic which would click on these ads. I am seeing the banners on my mobile, but the money generated would be very small initially is what I feel.


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there is a need to have a traffic which would click on these ads.

Yeah that's true and a-ads support CPM which is good for us .


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My big concern right now is how slow the front end is.
Power up your POB everyone lets get it back over 90% staked!

Have some !PIZZA @amr008


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Yes, improving the page speed should be a priority right now. I ran it through Google's Page Speed Insights and got a score of 40. The score for mobile was 9.

Pagespeed

Seems like a quick win to fix this in anticipation of more users to come.


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That's a nice insight , thanks for sharing , I will use that tool next time to check if it is my internet connection or the website itself is slow hehe


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I also noticed the reduction in traffic, so I found out it's the right time for me to begin my engagement :)


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He is talking about how slow the front-end is . Not about traffic .

But yeah you are right about the "right time to engage" . This is the best time for sure .


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Yeah I agree . Looks like there is an issue .

I didn't experience with other front-ends actually , should wait and see .


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I always wonder what makes POB so popular and what is the real use case. I can understand LEO community as that provide services and products so that community is sustainable. But if you do not have a roadmap for future you won’t sustain. So we need something like this to earn otherwise this will be just another community with no plans.
I like the idea of vouchers etc by I would suggest to choose someone random based on some criteria. For example choose a user from all the users who posted more than 5 times in last week. This gives all fare chance to participate.

5 times? Sounds like a reason to spam because not every can dedicate that much effort, but for the BTC rewards, reasons to overwork may come in.


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I see you already got this idea to be adopted by POB, so congratulations!

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Every solid marketing & sales system has advertising as a vehicle incorporated in it. When setup correctly, an ad product can uplift the value of the community. I'm all in on your suggestions making sure though that devs know what they're up to.


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I think the first three tends to apply to most HIVE tribe so it doesn't really make it stand out against the other communities. Though the high APR and price makes it very interesting to invest in.

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Yep, it's basically the same thing, I don't really see much needs for the ads, most people (like myself) don't like ads at all!

I recently realized most of this front ends had it running when I once switched to Chrome, because on a default "I have my brave browser blocking ads"


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To be honest with you , I don't like ads too but how is the founder of the tribe going to earn to fund ?

I mean yeah sure we can pay them in POB but what will the developer use the POB on ? That's my point of discussion .

He might obviously sell POB for hive but then that's not good for POB is it ? Because say you pay 1000$ worth POB to a developer and he just dumps it for Hive ( I don't blame him for this because he isn't here for long-term ) that is bad news for POB .


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Paying developers?

Clearly that wasn't stated in your post, but I still don't see how paying developers the BTC earned a use case for POB?


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I still don't see how paying developers the BTC earned a use case for POB?

It was my reply to you about not running ads at all . My reply of paying developers wasn't about the usecase .
I brought it up because you said you don't like ads .

For usecase or not for usecase , if we don't run ads as you suggest , we gotto find a good another way for the owner of POB to fund development right ? I mean not all developers will accept POB . Now what is "that" other good way ? Do you have anything on mind except ads?


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The POB fund basically covers this. Honestly with the prices right now, letting it go onto the market slowly might be the safer choice. The money has to come from somewhere and while ad revenue may help, eventually that POB has to be released. If they are that worried, they could always stake a portion to the developers and send the other portion liquid.

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The money has to come from somewhere

Yeahh that's what I am trying to point out too but thing is , people are thinking everyone will accept POB - a new developer , marketing person ( if we hire ) or any other person , they all accept POB according to them which isn't the case most of the times .

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I don't think ads are bad but I don't mind letting them sit on my screen to help project/sites I like. They are a nuisance I can deal with.

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Yea, for a similar reason, am disabling my ads blocker

The ads are already up and running actually :)


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Just a very few tokens on the Hive-Engine have use-case... I mean, use-case expect staking, which is for some the ONLY use case they have... You have posted just a couple of possible things that can be easily integrated into any of the tribes and there are an immense amount of ideas for use-cases...

Thanks for pointing out this very important topic!


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How to use the ad revenue would be a whole different problem but i agree with you on setting up ads in the first place. I think that any tribe not using ads for revenue is wasting a huge opportunity.

The money can be used for

  • Buyback
  • Rewards
  • Development
  • Marketing
  • Anything to grow the tribe.

The people are already using the site, so making some money to grow it is a no brainer to me.

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Thank you . What I stated in the post is just an example to kick start the discussion . See now you provided some real ideas , we can spend the swap.BTC or whatever earned through ads on say Marketing / development . That's what this post is about , to gather the user thoughts .

I think that any tribe not using ads for revenue is wasting a huge opportunity.

Exactly .

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By the way, wouldn't a way to be able to transfer this POB without hitting the Hive Engine through a DEFI such as CUB?

There we could exchange for another token and then realize the value for investments without lowering the POB price.


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POB is a Hive engine token so no way to bypass that. CUB is a BSC token ..

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and what about a bPOB like bLEO?

Yeah that can be done for sure but

then realize the value for investments without lowering the POB price.

This can't happen because both bPOB and POB will be linked to each other right ? And hence the price automatically adjusts itself although they exist on different chains .

For example:

Hive/ BTC - say 0.44$ on Binance

Hive / ETH on some other exchange would also adjust itself to 0.44$ within minutes because of the users buying and selling .

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I say bPOB not to raise or lower the price but as a way to bring in faster users, and also to be able to approach Defi as a Cub with bLeo

I think it's always nice to discuss use cases. You never know what kind of ideas can pop up during those brainstorming sessions.

I think ads could be a good idea. Not really sure what to do with the revenue though... you proposed some nice ideas but maybe it would also be good to reinvest in the development itself. It could use a new frontend for example.

Thanks for bringing up this important discussion!


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Yeah , I am glad this kick started the discussion and seems like many don't have a problem with ads but have an issue with how the revenue will be used .

Well first step has been taken as I see some banners now , the second step can be discussed later on :)

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I love the idea of not wasting the traffic. Using ads is fully supported by me.

Also, I like the fact that you made it very clear that your suggestions for what we'd do with the revenue from ads are all open for discussion. At the end of the day we'd all agree on something really great and beneficial for sure.

For now, my own contribution is:

  1. Let's go straight away for the ads
  2. Let's all come together and decide what will be done with the revenue.

As for what I'd like to be done with the revenue, I would give it some more thought, but I'm mainly for promoting engagement by rewarding best content creators and best engagers.


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So you propose to segregate those who have a low participation in the platform? There are those who cannot, like us, spend 8 hours in pob or a little more, but if they upload content constantly!


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This is what I said:

but I'm mainly for promoting engagement by rewarding best content creators and best engagers.

Those who cannot spend much time on POB would still be rewarded for good content as I included 'best content creators' in my suggestion. You see it now?


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For now, my own contribution is:

  1. Let's go straight away for the ads
  2. Let's all come together and decide what will be done with the revenue.

My view is the same :) Thanks for the reply .

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Generating ad revenue in general is a great idea, as long as it's not intrusive. So no sounds and no popups. A simple banner ad is fine and that's exactly what POB(we should figure out a better name for him) is planning according to himself on discord.

I think it should go into projects that raise the value of every single POB-token in circulation. There is already enough motivation for people to be the biggest poster, the biggest commenter etc.

The least creative way would be to pay a dividend of swap.btc to anyone who has POB staked. That's not particularly clever, but at least it would connect POB to another coin.

Another idea would be to create a fan shop of POB articles like the mug @vempromundo came up with.
The articles are bought with BTC and sold to us in POB. These POB tokens can be sold on the market and donated to charity.


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You can delegate it to some other projects ( Like my own Engagement project ) to earn POB as dividends.

Done, @amr008!

From now on, I'm gonna help to strengthen the POB and LEO front end to grow with my posts and replies / interactions.


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Thank you very much @wiseagent :)

Also I just saw your delegation , happy to see you getting involved in the Engagement project .I am sure you will be happy with the dividends you get on Sunday :)


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This article is very very wise, in two of the articles that I posted I talked about this topic, and that you have expanded it is gratifying, you need to give pob a use to make it even stronger, and what better way to do it than right in the moment where even pob is promoted within the Hive community at a very low cost, a high% of the community knows that it is pob and if it is not used now, it will be more expensive and difficult in the future!


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Exactly , right on .

Let us see where this discussion will lead to .

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We are currently using the same Ad-network on Sportstalksocial and results have been satisfactory .

There was a proposal on sportstalksocial before they start displaying ads. I see banner on proofofbrain.io. How was it done? Who made decision?


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Sportstalk has adopted itself a Archon type of governance where anything has to be passed through proposal before being implemented but on other tribes it's not the case , the founder of the tribe usually does it.

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Thanks. So proofofbrain doesn't use Archon. That's bad, all tribe configurations can be changed arbitrarily by one person, even author/curator reward split can be change to 75/25. POB needs Archon asap!


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Yes what you are telling is 100% right .

And yeah I love the Archon governance system , infact I have used that on Sportstalk to pass proposals myself .
It's a step further to real decentralization .


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wow... I am just getting to know one can earn more BRO by delegating LEO and POB to @brofi.... This is something I would love to try out as I don't have much BRO holdings.


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Yeah :) Happy to know that you found out something from the post hehe.

I personally amn't delegating to @brofi my POB because the returns are a bit less but my other tokens like NEOXAG , PAL all goes to @brofi .


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I keep my POB staked and I like to see my Power increase day by day, I wish it would grow faster 😊 and I like to rate the posts of the authors, even if my vote is not significant.


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even if my vote is not significant.

Believe me , every single vote matters :)

wish it would grow faster

Hehe let's be active and consistent , eventually our stake will grow :)

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I like the idea of running ads as it starts to bring value back into the token from outside sources. That's NEVER a bad thing.

I say use it to buy POB off the market and burn them. This gives everyone an even playing field. Small or large investor and seems fair to everyone.

While burning isn't optimal it's the best option you have at the moment. Unless you can start to track revenue generated per post and award POB based on that.


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Instead of editing the above I wanted to add on to this as I though a bit longer on it. Burning is not the best or only option. Those funds could be used for DEVELOPMENT! Development and building out POB would have much more value above anything else in my opinion.


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I like the idea of running ads as it starts to bring value back into the token from outside sources. That's NEVER a bad thing.

That's my opinion too .

Unless you can start to track revenue generated per post and award POB based on that.

Well that's not possible at the moment too , unfortunately , it would have been great .

Those funds could be used for DEVELOPMENT! Development and building out POB would have much more value above anything else in my opinion.

Totally agree with this .

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I'm not very familiar with POB, I'm going to come here more, it looks like there's some good stuff in the works. This post gave me some good ideas, as I always promote hive tribes and like to have new use cases for their tokens. Thanks for this


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Feel free to ask me any questions if you have about the tribe or token , I will be happy to help .


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Interesting thoughts and outlook. I look forward to hearing more about this and what direction it will take. I heavily agree with the sentiments of @calumam though. I think you will find that a large proportion of users actually do.

I heavily agree with the sentiments of @calumam though

Not sure what his sentiments were about this because he didn't reply to the post directly . Would love to hear it though .

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Right, correct. He did not respond to the proposal in this post directly. I meant this comment here, which addresses a side issue that many are concerned about.

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Anyway, it was an interesting read, and I'm looking forward to the next iteration of this idea, especially after also reading @trumpman's latest post as well:)

I think leofinance followed this same model you propose for pob--exploring advertising. I would have suggested defi but there isn't much in terms of liquidity.


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I would have suggested defi but there isn't much in terms of liquidity.

Yeah I agree with that . It will take some time to get a good amount of tokens out there before we can think about DeFi .

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use cases are very important for the viability and value of the token. The more high quality use cases the better. Increasing engagement is one way to increase usage and value of the pob token. Also, I think it would be best to bring in from outside the hive platform to help increase the value. Is there a way or a use case to draw non-hive/non-pob users onto the platform?

my dear friend, after reading this I was left with some doubts. I would like you to help me, since I consider myself new to POB and it is better to ask an expert before making mistakes:

When you say: Stake it to increase the upvote value (Which will let you earn more POB) ... by this you mean to make a POB power up?

I would also like to know the terms of liquid POB.


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Awesome. I think the Ads are great. I earn at least $100/ month with Adsense on my old blogger blogs and Youtube.


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I think only rewarding the top user of something is not such a good idea. It is super hard to achieve and also it is somewhat unfair: i.e., the person with the most stake can easily always be first in that position (most PoB staked). So perhaps it would be better to spread it to more users rather than only to 1 person.

I like the second idea more, this would create a bridge to the fiat world which is so important. Also, this could be expanded upon!


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