My Identity Crisis : Trader or Investor?

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I have been having sort of an identity crisis this last year.

I always considered myself a trader.
As I had very few funds when I started out in the 2020 bull market I basically had to trade my way up. And I did, just simple Spot trading, no longs, no shorts, no leverage.

And I did pretty well, if I had only bought BTC I would have almost tripled my money. But trading ALTS allowed me to 6X my initial investment.


I thought of myself as a trader. A Baby trader but still a trader.

Until I entered the current market where volatility is often lost.

With little to no volatility it is hardly worth the effort to trade. Not saying I am not trading, but it has been way less.

Still, I do take profit during 10%+ pumps and wait till the market lets me buy back those coins at a 7% discount or more.

This way I grow my bags without actually investing any additional fiat. I grew my Radix bag with 40%, my XTM bag with 30+% these last 6 months, and many others with a slightly lower percentage.

Funniest thing; My bags are bigger but my net worth keeps dwindling simply because most coins I hold keep hitting all-time lows.

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Just check out one of my fav. low caps:

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It´s half of what it was when FTX collapsed, and I know the fallout of that crisis was not gone by removing SBF and his Harry Potter GF. but another 50% drop. And I have been DCAing each dip since, because I still had some funds or generated them during that little peak in March.

Things are looking really dark

Many of my holdings are way below my FTX lows and I have invested most of my dry pòwder.

In March with BTC at 30K my Portfolio...oh hell pictures speak louder than words:

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You see, I did not invest any Fiat, I grew some bags, grew my HIVE holdings, and still lost 20% of my net worth.

That is in parallel with trading less and less. With my net worth down the toilet, I have no incentive at all to call myself a trader. So I started to think of myself as an investor.

Maybe that makes it easier to accept the loss, or better worded "the reduction in profit."

I thought That I saw The Bottom

I was sure that the FTX collapse would be the bottom, and it was.
Well, it was for Bitcoin, and I am holding most of my portfolio in $BTCm which protected me from going into the red this bear market.

Unfortunately, the ALT Coin reckoning had not even started.

Stupid is as stupid does

This stupid little baby still has lots to learn. Because I thought that the bottom was in and I did start accumulating ALTS as soon we got to 2023.

I mean one year before the halving, and FTX was behind us, what could go wrong?

Crypto is like a box of chocolate: You never know what you gonna get.

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And what I got was;

Dumped on, AGAIN.

I never knew ALTs could go this low, of course, this is Baby´s first bear market so I learned another expensive lesson, but come on this is no longer funny.

Investing is Never Funny

So how do I deal with this temporary loss?

I stopped calling myself a Trader and reinvented myself as an Investor:

Investing is a long-term risk-reward calculation, and it´s normal for you to take a loss if you are investing near the market lows.

I did do some DYOR and did not jump in like I used to do, I checked:

  • Where are we in the cycle?
  • What was the previous ATH?
  • How many X´s is that from where we are now?
  • Is this project still active, or did it die after its previous peak?

Then I closed my eyes, clicked buy, and hodl for the best.

Bear Markets Are Scarry

The first six months of 2023 were the scariest because you keep pumping in your reserves and you only see diminishing returns. And all the FUD we got did not make it any better.

I doubted if we would ever see another bull market due to those interest rates increasing, Herr Gensler and the SEC going after every crypto project, fiat on and off ramps disappearing, and a recession hanging above all our heads.

Changer Things

But lately, I have begun to make sure I am fully invested six months from now.
I plan to have not one USDT to spare in April 2024 (unless I made it trading). And I feel very much at ease with it.

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It´s a little miracle I still have a little dry powder to invest. I will try to stretch those virtual dollars till March 2024, but I am afraid I will run out of funds before the final dip.

What makes me feel that comfortable

The simple fact that we have so many possible catalysts on the horizon coinciding with the halving.

Every bull run needs a catalyst or two to make people ape in and I can see them way over there!

The best part is that it does not seem that they are priced in, prices are much lower than they were during the Scarry Gensler Days.

Like I say too often, it´s all about Risk/Reward and that reward has never looked this Yummie!

Dots on the 2024 Horizon

  • Judges Kicking Genslers´ Butt (Keep those Beatings Coming)

  • US Election (Nobody wants their voters to feel poor)

  • New Accounting Rules (BTC on your balance sheet will not make you look like a loser anymore)

  • End of Rate Hikes (Everything will come to an end one day and so will these damn rate hikes)

  • Paypal Stablecoin and crypto payments (Just Imagine, how many no coiners no are two clicks away from crypto)

  • Metamask to Fiat (This is a tricky one as I prefer people to on-ramp, not off-ramp their fiat but it sure is made easy)

  • (Metamask) Clean Crypto Plugins (Nice looking, user-friendly plug-ins that would even allow your grandma to use crypto online)

Of course, it will not be just rainbows and unicorns;

  • Gary Gensler will not be removed till after the election so we might have some more fanatic outbursts

  • That recession looks real to me. But the worst time of a recession are those months just ahead of everyone being aware and those right after. Hence by the mids of 2024 the recession has become the new normal

Then there are some things that might cause a bit more panic like the Chinese Economy crashing and pulling a lot of money down with it.

The BRICS countries growing and causing further de-dollarisation, and of course, that stupid semi-world war that seems to be endless (it actually started with that Krim war years ago)

These things (and many others) will have a macroeconomic impact but will not harm the next bull run as I expect it to respect the cycle and its timelines. Which would put the peak somewhere in Q4 of 2025.

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Bottom Line

We can change, I started as a trader because I was too late and did not have enough funds to invest.

Now things changed & so I have changed:
I have been here all bear market
I have been buying the dips
I am able to buy at bear market lows
And I have a pretty good idea of when & what the new ATHs could be.

I do not need to trade my way up, I now need to wait my way up and sell my way to the top.

I am no longer a trader. I am an investor.
I have to grow some diamond hands & hodl for dear life till Q4 of 2025

Definition of Cryptocurrency trading:

Cryptocurrency trading involves buying and selling cryptocurrencies for profit.

Oh dear, so that means that even if I hodl and sell on my way up....I will never be an investor???
I will always remain a crypto trader???
So I am not an investor?

I thought I had it all worked out, I thought I could explain my losses by being an early investor, but it seems I am just a lousy trader.

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Thank goodness you made it to the end. Pees, Love, and I am out of here!

I am very curious to hear if you have struggled with your crypto personality during this bear market, so drop a comment and let me know....please!

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Am I a trader or an investor ?, I literally can't tell, but I think my opinion in this post can be accepted.

Firstly, I want to appreciate how you structured your post, writing your feelings and idea towards a particular circumstance is very interesting to read.

Secondly, you actually had the idea of becoming a trader, but the bearish situation has turned things the other way. But I would love to spot out something.

Mathematically, you actually loss during this bearish season but ideally, you didn't. This is why: The amount of asset you have are same or even greater than the previous, but got reduced in value(devaluation).

So basically, when a slight increase in Bitcoin occurs, it is certain that those asset are going up as well.

And lastly, becoming a trader during the bear season isn't a welcome idea, except you have that calm to accept your loss.

Yea, before I forget, I am a big supporter of accumulation during bear season, I see is an opportunity to gather as much as we can, inorder to prepare for an exciting bull season.

I will stop here...., Thanks for sharing such a great post, and I hope you recover your losses.

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Mathematically, you actually loss during this bearish season but ideally, you didn't. This is why: The amount of asset you have are same or even greater than the previous, but got reduced in value(devaluation).

You are right of course, I am only at a loss in $ value which we can even blame on inflation. In crypto volumes, I am indeed up a lot and still accumulating. Still the psychological effect of a loss is there, but in the back of my mind, I am winning!LOLZ

Thanks for the cool and elaborate comment and recognizing I wanted to put in a structure!

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I think I started this bear market as a longterm Buy And Hold investor and am still in this boat I think. I do like the charts though but without any specific edge, I think it doesn't make sense to trade. If you can't say what your edge is and roughly calculate it, then you also probably don't have an edge.


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My Edge is that I took 5-10% profit swingtrading, and that worked wonders in a bull market but right now I am happy if I have a trade a week (Also because I buffed up from 5 to min 10% profit).

But I do like the swingtrading and I have seen that volatility is a lucrative way to grow your bags if you don't get too greedy. But with no/low volatility there is just not much to grow your bags with.

But what we do have is great lows on good projects, allowing me to use all the dry powder I had left to invest and hope for the best. Because I did not have that opportunity and neither the funds three years ago when I jumped in.

OMG is it only three years? Feels like I have been in crypto for an eternity but I guess that is what this bore market does to you. Thanks for picking my story!

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Yea the volatility is pretty low now, but I am looking forward to seeing how your bags develop after this cycle. Keep up the great work.

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I aim at not having more than 3 bags after this cycle, a bit of BTC a Bit of ETH and a huge bag of stables to buy the next bore market

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I bought Polygon instead of ETH.

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I am looking forward to buy the bore market dip around this time 4 years from now using that big bag of stables but I have no clue what I will buy then.

I think we will see a massive change coming in crypto these next 4 years just look at coins from 2017 how many of those have survived and still have meaning today?

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I guess it depends a lot on Beetcoin. I am not thinking about ALTs 4 years from now, it is too far away.

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I think I have Russian blood as I have a clear 4 year plan, with some flexibility of course, but that does make me think about buying ALTs in 4 years but I would probably only buy coins that do not even exist today-

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It's gonna be a fun journey I think. Looking forward to seeing what new tokens pop up.

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I'd probably consider myself an investor. I know what you mean about feeling like your bags are dwindling. I keep powering up Hive and it feels like my estimated dollar value either stays the same or barely climbs at all.

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Same here.....almost as mine actually keep going down even though I am powering up & posting 6-7 times a week. But it´s because we still measure it against the dollar value and not as a value in itself. But what goes down..... so it will be fun at some point....right?

There will be some point in the future, right?

What there is no future????

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I think there will be a point yes. I can't say what or when it will be. I remember when we hit $3 people were saying Hive would never be below $1 again... Right...

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I stopped calling myself a Trader and reinvented myself as an Investor:

That's exactly what I did too... 😃 I tried trading 2-3 times in the past, and I failed... Spot, without the leverage, with leverage... All that works out fine when you have a clear market trend... Price goes up, you sell, wait for retrace, you "re-buy" it again, it pumps, you sell, etc... the same principle when the price goes down, but the opposite...

Definition of Cryptocurrency trading:
Cryptocurrency trading involves buying and selling cryptocurrencies for profit.

I have changed this so that it suits me... Involves buying/selling of ALTCOINS, and taking BTC for a profit... :)

Also... just one more thing... As an investor, you lose only in the moment when you SELL your bags... until then, your investment goes up and down in value, but that can always change as you OWN it... When you sell, you are out... As I believe that cryptocurrency is here to stay, I don't have too many doubts as an investor...

Nice post!

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It´s only a loss when you sell. And with all the good things coming I ain't selling, unless it´s to buy it back at a discount....simply because non-leveraged trading helps grow bags.

Indeed life as an investor is much better.

Thanks for the cool comment!

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