RE: HBD Pay, app and marketing Proposal #302 [ENG-ESP]
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Very valuable proposal. What is not clear here is why do you need 485 HBD a day to do that ? Isn't the sum a bit on the (shockingly) high side ?
Can you please elaborate how you arrived at that sum ? Why 485 HBD and not 185 HBD or 1485 HBD per day, while you are at it ?
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Why not ask for a huge slice for doing ..... What?
Yeah. This is a joke. He wants full price for doing what? Tracking payments? That's it?
And how is this going to adopt hive among the mainstream users.
Oh it's not.
Hive is dying and this is just another bloodsucking project that leeches off the community.
Adoption! Hahahahhahahahahha!
Bloodsucking projects are to be expected. I don't think Hive is dying
Oh you don't?
How about the backstabbing of psyberx so that holozing could get more investors?
How about the bullying of decency to remove boosting and decency votes?
How about the organization of witch hunters and snitches to centralize power in ocd?
Yeah. Hive is done. The community has been ran off. This is a shell of a community. All my friends? Gone. The major reason? Harassment and organized downvoters.
You can say what you want. I see the reality. I'm a major reason this got here. Second layer tokens? Defi markets?
So yeah. Is what it is. There will not be any mass adoption. It's like bad 90s internet rather than the future..
Seriously there's one guy asking for 485 a day two QR code and track payments. I mean what kind of joke is that? He wants $30,000 a year to do exactly nothing? And get paid by hive?
Yeah this is turning into a joke. I'm one of the top leo traders. Yep that's right the investing group is so shallow they can't even trade their own token. And someone like me is in their rich list? Ha!
How about that excuse of a scam thats Leo premium?
How is hive succeeding? Ill wait for your answer....
I don't know about psyberx.
I spoke with good-karma and he decided to remove boosting because it got some people very upset. I disagree with this decision but it was his, he didn't seem to have suffered bullying - he just wanted to appease the other guys ...
I don't know about witch hunters and snitches ... I don't feel like ocd has an inordinate amount of power.
People come and go, it's a constant matchmaking, I've been here since 2017 and I take it for what it is. It could be better, I wish it was better, but I can't impose that Hive be what I would like it to be ... which is sometimes frustrating, I admit
I always felt Leo was a bit of a scam. But I think it was worth trying, it could have worked out.
I don't say Hive is succeeding. But I don't see it dying either ... it kinda' survives ... not great, but hope springs eternal ...
It's making a marked downturn.
I'm here since 2017. I've put a lot of effort in this. I've helped a lot of friends navigate here.
I'd like to hope. But yes what I've said is true. Ocd and acidyo own hive. It's centralized and attacking groups with immunity and impunity. And I've watched it.
Acidyo threatened psyberx and ran off all the investors. Chased them off chain. The initial idea was that this would get more investors for the Holozing project. However that project is basically intellectual property theft and plagiarism. Which has been proven. Especially when you have Mr acid yo blasting me with an entire weeks worth of downvotes to threaten me into shutting up.
However it just clearly exposed the abuse of the system.
Oh holozing is really pouring money into a pit on this one. Which once again proves that just because you have stake doesn't make you a business person.
Ocd needs to be dissolved. And the most clearly abusive individuals needs to have their accounts locked and allowed to take their money off of here.
But yeah. They tried mob tactics against me multiple times. Wrongful reports to their sister harassment networks.
Hive sure hasn't gotten better. Which I put massive amounts of effort into building communities only to have the repeat offenders then Target positive community groups.... Yeah ....
Perhaps you can find a modus vivendi with them ? They don't harass everyone - there was probably something you did that triggered them? What do you think was controversial enough for them to react ?
The truth... Lol.
I'm doing just fine. They can threaten. But really am I that big of a fish to need to act like this and confirm what I said?
Whatever. Hive is struggling. Adoption? Lol oh we are right now fighting for survival.
Things are definitely not going well. Metrics? Oh out of the "active accounts" I've got how much? On hive.
Oh liquidity pools. 90% of all tokens collapsed? Anything "successful" is owned and the centralized individuals that own hive reap the majority of the investing.
It's turned into a huge ocd circle jerk. Lol.
But hey! If my words are so scary? Why is it that just my opinion and insight so threatening and needs to be forced silent.
Again more of the behavior that's ran off the far majority of the hive community. Our reputation worldwide is a clear consistent. Either you are hive believer? Or a threat.
Again where's the investment into the local meetups. Only the "international" ones.
And for that matter how about having users catch flags for actually trying to spread the word about hive? Oh yeah that's right anyone not apart of the official onboarding group? Hmmm.
Yeah we turned into a closed clique.
Seriously look at our defi markets. The pools are not near deep enough or just mismanaged.
Take Leo token and that market. I'm a big player there... Ha! Me? Yeah.....
If it was me? I'd put funds into the local meetups and get votes going to hivians interaction in the real world. The vr world. And our defi markets and investing.
But nope! Lol hive is dreaming and using buzzwords to beg.... Just like this joke of a proposal....
$485 a day for qr codes. And tracking what already is tracked.
Or is that for doing this in Spanish?
I'm confused. Lol
Actually when they freaked out that my dog was not using his typing skills to write his blog? Hahahaha! Ocd freaked!
Dogs must write their own blogs.
What, your dog can't write!? Shocking!
Mine wrote two tomes of poetry already
Mine markets hive... Oh I should get a proposal up! I should ask for $485 to bring on others this summer.
A day! Man we too can abuse the reward pool for little to no effort!
Actually.... I'm going to get one written with my dog doing the photography since they thought he was writing it.
Oh and gotta cite him and source him! Lol!
Hi Sorin!
The total amount of the project, including hosting, domains, security, graphic design, the development of 4 short videos, POP material and the payment of salaries of programmers and the team of community managers, for one year, which is the development time of the entire project, is just under $30,000. That divided by 60 days, which is the way DHF makes payments, gives that amount of 485 HBD.
Thank you for your answer, it's the first step to accountability. Domain is a once a year payment of a handful of dollars. Like ... less than a tenth of what you are asking for one day. Hosting can be done for free on IPFS or, with a better SLA, on a cloud provider for a monthly sum that is, again, less than a tenth of what you are asking for a day.
For paying for the work, have you considered the alternative of staying INSIDE the system the way it was done by Utopian back in steem times? The main advantage is higher transparency - if your proposal is approved the 485 HBD per day become opaque, a sum that goes OUTSIDE, that you are free to use as you please and everybody has to trust you. If instead you auction the tasks on chain and pay on-chain everything stays clean and transparent and "trustless".
See for instance the way I developed the EFTG project back in 2018 - 2019 - see this article and the links within:
The European Financial Transparency Gateway
An example for transparently paying the work of a graphic artist :
https://peakd.com/utopian-io/@outwork/ui-ux-branding-and-logo-design-for-european-financial-transparency-gateway-eftg