Why Was HiveBeeCon Different? .:. Late Night Blogging
In the first place, I wanted to give another title to this post, but I was worried that someone could be "offended"... The idea was to name it Why was #HiveBeeCon so successful?
This event was my second biggest HIVE IRL event after last year's HiveFest in Amsterdam and I have no idea which Hive meetup in total... I met many Hivians from all around the world, some of them in Spain, others in Italy, Serbia, etc. and I hope soon YOU who-knows-where! 🙂 And to be honest, none of those meetups was bad! Sometimes, I would meet people that I wasn't even engaging with on HIVE (my wife's HIVE friends), but we still got along fine IRL!
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Is HiveBeeCon better than HiveFest? Or it's vice versa? I wouldn't pick sides here as I liked both! Also, these two events are different... HiveFest has "educative" and "informative" lines inside as it promotes apps built on HIVE, promotes different ways to use HIVE, and you can find a lot of news plans and developments for HIVE... It has a "networking" side implemented too, but the emphasis is on the stage and its "conference looks"... All that is important if you are undecided in which part of HIVE would you like to dive and focus!
On the other side, we had the first HiveBeeCon, which was planned to be a small HIVE meetup that could grow in the future... The idea was to have another HIVE "event" that is an addition to HiveFest, and not a competition! It has a completely different approach and it can't be compared to HiveFest at all...
In my opinion, the HiveBeeCon was a success and there are some important reasons why:
There was no stage! The whole meetup was a stage! No highlighted person was talking and everyone else was listening and clapping... No, everyone was talking with each other, everyone was sharing his experience in HIVE and out of HIVE... Some people aren't on HIVE at all and they were part of the event too... Nobody was convincing someone else to join, to do this, or do that...
No crypto talk! Somehow, we are always forgetting that HIVE is mainly a social media network... Because of that, our talks are based on the cryptocurrency side, talking about rewards ratio, resource credits, when the price will go up, speculations, etc... While I did hear one guy (who wasn't on HIVE) asking about the "tokenomics" of HIVE, all the other conversation on the HiveBeeCon were about different communities, experiences, how to support others, and how to be better! Not on a blockchain level (that's what those developers are taking care of), but on the human level... How to improve the communication, how to "show the way" to new Hivians...
HiveBeeCon buzz This is probably one of the most "visible" things about the HiveBeeCon... Almost everyone who attended the event is a "hardcore" content creator and everyone understands the importance of sharing "the good news" with others! Especially in times when all that we can see is the bad news... Not just that, everyone who attended understands that the social network isn't successful because of ME, but because of US! That's why you can see a lot of posts where people show appreciation towards other participants, as everyone learned something new from his/her fellow Hivian...
All that made me think about HIVE and whether are we doing things as we should, or we are doing it wrong. I do understand different approaches for onboarding, "advertising" HIVE, trying to onboard big influencers, or trying to "lure" businesses to HIVE... Is it the right way?
On the other side, after attending this great meetup, I noticed that I'm much more "pumped" to spread the word about it, to talk about my point of view, and build a stronger community of "action takers"... The same happens with other participants after getting the "motivational injection" from others! If we create a healthy community and a healthy social media network, we will be more attractive for others to come and "sell things to us", or to build tools for us... Maybe HIVE growth has to come from the INSIDE and not from the outside.
That reminded me of my grandfather... Even before buying a lottery ticket, he would already have a plan for spending the money... 😃 Also reminds me of myself when I was creating my first website with the idea of earning money from advertisers... The first thing I did was to create a space for advertisers, instead of building a plan to attract visitors in the first place! We need to make a strong network first, and the businesses will come... Like that saying by Marie Kondo... Life truly begins when you put your house in order!
We don't have to wait for someone else to onboard people to HIVE... We don't have to promise newbies big money to onboard them... What we can do is to show them the way, invite them to specific communities in which are they interested... We can add value to the community where we create, we can support other creators by upvoting their content and commenting on the posts... Showing by example that we appreciate hard work and valuable content... If we do that, we will attract "right" people to HIVE... Those who will continue with building this place!
What do you think about this approach? Do you like meetups? Did they help you (if you attended) in some way?
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Well, the more meetings the more HIVE becomes popular 😉
Real-life meetups are a fantastic way to make stronger bonds between people... In our case, stronger bonds among Hivians directly mean stronger HIVE!
It was interesting to see all those "non-Hive" people at HiveBeeCon looking at us with surprise with a question: "You traveled 3 hours by plane to meet a few friends?" 😃 Hive is contagious! 😃
I do like the idea of building something great that can attract others more naturally. It also starts with good governance and supporting good content. However, what are you thoughts on say people who may come and think to use Hive as an ATM? Should producing content be enough and all tokens are sold or should they also grow their stake to be successful on Hive?
I think that HIVE is different than YouTube, or other platforms out there where you can see a "talking head" on the video, shilling content without engaging with others... As time passes by, people will ask for more "contact"... IMO, Web3 is a "contact sport" and communication between creators and the audience is a two-way street... If you want to be successful, you will have to take your time and "talk to your audience"...
I know that this doesn't look like an answer to your question, but it is... If you use HIVE as an ATM, it will drain very fast... If you communicate/engage with others, you will appreciate others and "share" your wealth with others... That means powering up, getting involved on a deeper level, and caring about the network...
I'm not delusional and I do understand that we will have people who will (and are) using HIVE as an ATM, but that's normal... HIVE (and the community) will "filter out" those people... I'm not worried about that...
That makes sense and I agree with you. In web2, some people may be lucky to earn some fiat and the transaction is finished, with Hive you earn Hive.. the governance token and have a stake in chain, it's a different ( and better ) world.
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Great to hear that! Sometimes, I think that I'm losing my mind with these ideas and that nobody shares a similar opinion... 😂
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I think at Hivefest, apart from the people talking on stage, people spontaneously meet, talk and have fun, man.
HiveBeeCon is completely different, like you said, the goal is not to talk about Hive, the goal is just to meet and have fun. You might have liked it because you were in a more intimate atmosphere.
I've never been to a big Hive meetup before, but I would like to organize one in Turkey and I would love to attend Hivefest or other events in Greece or Turkey if there is a country I can attend.
It is fun! I had a lot of fun in Amsterdam last year!
And, yes... the atmosphere was more "intimate" and that was one of the reasons why it "looked" like even more fun than last year's HF... As I said in the post, I don't want to make a competition between the two as both ways of engagement are needed! It's like when you work for a traditional company and you have to go to conferences on one side, and to have leisure time on the other side... Both are needed for success!
Do it! Find 2-3 people and you can organize it together!
I'm working on it, you can be sure but it's so cold here now, maybe with the spring I'll plan a meeting. Thanks for the advices. I agree with you, we need everything for spreading Hive!
I have to admit that I don't like to go out either when it is too cold... Especially on longer trips... So. maybe the idea for a Spring meetup is a better idea!
It is great that we are seeing Hive communities are making their efforts to get together somehow and share their thoughts. It is a best practice and looks like decentralization brings together different minds on a single platform.
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Agree with you 100%! I like different opinions! There is no better picture than seeing people giving different ideas of how to improve HIVE! There are no bad ideas when you are thinking about the mutual benefit of your community!
Thanks for taking the time to share your opinion!
Collective efforts from every community is necessary, this is the best way to shape the future of Hive and make it sustainable.
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Sounds like Hive does need an event like this… the human and social side of it all. Have fun, finally meet people irl… connect on a deeper level 😎
Too bad I couldn’t go… I missed something great.
You missed this one, but you will not miss the next one! 🙂 Now that you know how fun was! 😃
Nope hehehe 🤭 I will do my best to be there!
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I think there was quite a lot of talk about Hive during HiveBeeCon. Just the format was different. No stage. A relaxed vibe. That was enough.
To me, it reminded me a little of the various international youth projects I took part in 18 years ago. People from different countries participated and they were the most interesting. The topics were secondary and I don't even remember them.
BTW, I dream of a meeting that would last several days with different workshops led by people from Hive. Such a small festival, but with the emphasis on showing the community instead of the technology (that would be in the background). Something like this (in my opinion) could attract new content creators.
That's great that we reminded you of youth projects! 😃 It's nice to feel younger for a day or two... 🙂
That is a great idea! It could be very helpful for everyone! Especially for newbies who are many times confused by tokenomics, blockchain tech, and crypto aspects, while they should just focus on the most important thing, people...
When I wrote a post, I had in mind our last evening when we met Lukasz (I think that was his name)... If I understood well, he isn't on HIVE, but he was so stressed about the crypto-value of HIVE, blocking himself of a bigger idea behind it... The social aspect and the possibility to meet new people, learn things, and help each other thanks to HIVE Power...
Even without investing a penny, just by engaging with others, you can get so much value... Not just in money, but in other aspects and HiveBeeCon was a perfect example for that! Nobody except Gandalf is an HIVE whale, money isn't important at all... The important was to have fun and we had a lot of it! 😀
I have not gone to any of the meetups but I think the different approaches for Hivefest and hivebeecon appeal to different people. It kind of depends on what people want. Both of them are good and I think both recruitment and retention are important. I think it will rely more on applications because blogging will only appeal to so many people.
Exactly! That's why I was saying that both are important... Some people like more conference-type meetups, while others like "more personal" type... Having more options is the best way to do it!
there is something in these meetups that makes you think different :)
after the HF in Amsterdam, every time i see a meetup i think maybe i could get to the Netherlands, or Vienna or where ever i see them :) the FOMO of this year Hive Fest was real.
few years ago i would probably never drive 6 hours to meat with someone that i never even speak with (speak, not type). But this year i did with no hesitation.
and even after getting home from Greece just a week before HiveBeeCon there was a thought of Maybe, What if and How :) (but there was no how :) )
Hahahaha... I completely agree with you and I have the same feeling after the HiveFest in Amsterdam! Every time someone announces a meetup, I go to check airline connection, prices, accommodation... 😃
I knew that you had the same feeling, that's why I poked you BEFORE the HiveBeeCon... Hehehehe... But, it is understandable that it's impossible to be everywhere... It takes time, it takes money... But, 2-3 events in a year are doable... Let's try to focus on that... :)
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I think I like HiveBeecon so you can meet other members of Hive and have fun instead of talking about Hive all the time
We had HIVE talks, but most of them were about the communities, about personal growth, about helping others... And not the "technical aspect" of it, which I do like too, but I like more and more the social aspect lately... 🙂
Sometimes we forget that you cannot start the house from the roof.
Exactly! I suppose that it's because of our human nature... We like to dream big, we like to create "WHAT IF" scenarios... It's not bad to do that, but it's better to go step by step...
You hit the nail on the head. The two fests have two completely different approaches. This is also the first hivebeecon, and to see how it changes and if it brings a new strategy of spreading the word of hive still remains.
After attending both, I like the two. Like you said, it's no competition. Albeit hivebeecon was more intimate.
That's true and I hope that the next HiveBeeCon will keep its own "vibe" as we need it to be different...
Agree with you that it was more intimate... Even with not being that "small" it was like that... I suppose that's why I like it more... It's easier to connect with others in direct dialogue than in a big group... This reminds me of a talk that we had in Krakow, where usually the loudest are heard the most... Well, everyone was heard at HiveBeeCon, as we didn't have to shout and yell... 😃
Just by the vibes I felt from reading various content from both Hivefest and HiveBeeCon, I love that they are different. They have different purposes and, the great thing is they can be held in different locations and at different times, covering a wider area. Also, organizing and participating in Hivefest is more expensive because of its conference side, but many people are really interested in this (including me), as it showcases our progress in various communities and the core of Hive. Others just want to meet fellow Hivers. I saw cases when participants in Hivefests preferred to engage with others instead of watching live the conferences and seeing the recordings later.
Is the best way to increase Hive's adoption to have our "house" in order? Yes, I believe so. To attract and keep more people, we need to be a magnet, instead of grabbing them by the hand and pulling them in.
I don't mind paying for a ticket for the conferences, but through talking with others, I have realized that it is one of the biggest obstacles for many people... So, you are right about the audience, it's not for everyone and having an option for something different, I suppose that we will see people picking what suits the most for them...
Agree with you 100%! That's why I'm a bit skeptical about these campaigns for onboarding people as many times, if they are forces, you get false results (fake accounts, fake engagement, short-term hype, etc.)... We can do many things to help our ecosystem grow, it's not all about the onboarding numbers...
I think it doesn't hurt to try this too. If they like the easy onboarding and the application they get on, a small portion of them might stick around long enough to poke around other areas of the ecosystem. Others may not but could return at a later date if they hear about the platform/application again.
Fake engagement... That would be a problem and I hope it won't happen...
Otherwise I agree, we have so many things we could improve and work on. It's not just one or one direction.
It is already happening, as you said in your post... But I hope that it will not become an even bigger problem... We don't need that...
Ah, I thought you meant something else. 😅
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And I see this now, lol. Thanks for trying!
I will say even though the two event might be different, at the end of the day, they will achieve the same goal that is similar in nature.
It depends on what your final goal is...
Yea that's also what to consider
Thanks for sharing! From the way you described, it felt that it was real life transformation of what is happening on Hive hehe! From writing and commenting to talking to face-to-face with fellow Hivians!
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It is good that all the things were going on there very well and one goes to viewers for relaxation, one gets to learn a lot by meeting new people and one gets to spend a long time on the platform. The opportunity to meet these people is a blessing for a person and the way you are telling that the stage is not even made, each other is given the opportunity to talk to each other, so it is very much. Good thing people out there must have learned a lot of new things about this platform.
It was a lot of fun and it was nice to talk with so many people... Sharing the same interests is a great conversation-starter!
Yeah. Great time.
It has a Edinburgh festival vibe with Hivefest and then Edinburgh fringe festival with HiveBeeCon, but excellent both in totally different ways!
Hehehehe... I have no idea what those two events look like, but I believe your words that they are fantastic! 😃
hehe well it is a bit like a variation on a theme!
Saw your post on the recent video update about CTSB, so came over to read.
I'm passionate about the censorship resistance features of Hive and its portals - so high quality content is important. I'm thinking about content to create and then share out on legacy social media, so that others come back to read here.
Hive should be a nexus for a variety of content, but particularly reasoned commentary on the world.
The mechanisms of Hive are rather unique in encouraging thoughtfulness, civility, and cooperation.
On Twitter for instance if you and I disagreed on a political issue, the mechanisms there only reward conflict with a transitory rush of neurotransmitters.
Here we might disagree on an issue, and then in the next moment collaborate on a project we are both passionate about - because we realize we are both building on the same foundation.
Repetition seems to be the key with Hive, the more times that people see it - the easier it becomes to grasp it, and the more attractive it is. For some users of social media though they may have a painful epiphany - reacting to heated opinions is quite easy, sitting down and forming an articulation of their own thoughts, even having their own thoughts may require exercising some atrophied mental muscles.
Obviously many have become wary of crypto with the recent scandals, and the collapse of market - but I emphasize to potential users - you don't actually have to engage with the crypto portion of Hive unless you want to. Well written introductory posts are generally rewarded with enough Hive Power, that a user will have more than enough resource credits to post hundreds of articles and blogs a day, more than even the most prolific writer could even consume.
My comments are too often turning into essays - but that's what happens when I read and respond to well written enthusiastic posts. I definitely enjoy seeing the meetup posts and I'll be following your account.
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I have checked out your Introduction post just to know you better before writing a reply... I hope you don't mind that... 🙂
I like your vision of HIVE, or better said, perception of HIVE... Yes, most things that you listed in the comment stand, but like in any other social media network, we also have our own "grumpy members"... Maybe you didn't bump into them, but everyone does sooner or later... But, despite that, you can build whatever you want from this place and it is a great place to meet people who think like you and with whom you can have a good long talk... Like I did IRL meetup that I was writing about in this post...
Hive has its issues, but it has its pros, and I would say that pros are much more important than cons... That's why I'm still here building and adding my grain of sand to the platform...
I have checked some of your posts and if you are seeking advice, maybe you could publish your posts in a more specific community, rather than doing it in Leofinance... I don't have anything against LF, but if you go more into the specific community, you will find more people like you... Leofinance is maybe too "broad" community and posts can be lost among others, despite being of much better quality than others...
Btw. To check out active communities, take a look at the comment section of the post that my buddy Achim posted on our Liotes project blog https://peakd.com/hive-155221/@liotes/hpwxszcr
I think that there will be new comments as people will add their favorite communities there...
Sorry for the messed up reply... 😃
All the best!
Thank you and it's much appreciated. I've been trying to make my way around to more and more communities. There's a lot to see and do and each group seem to have its own vibe and etiquette.
Definitely not a messed up reply at all!
Nicely written. Since I´m just a mere content creator and curator here, with almost non-existent knowledge of the "techy stuff", I definitely prefer the informal, relaxed and family-like vibes of the HiveBeeCon to the more formal and tech-oriented HiveFest. In fact, when I came to Krakow back in 2018, to the official HiveFest, I came just for the after party that was kind of similar to what we just had in KBK :) But that´s just me. It´s important, of course, that our devs, coders, witnesses and other "big brains" meet up too to talk about things that us, ordinary users, don´t understand :) So like I already told GTG, I think there is enough room for both events - HiveFest and HiveBeeCon - and it would be really cool to see them both hosted (and attended massively) every year :)
I couldn't agree more with you! There is space for both, I'm sure! Maybe in a different part of the year, just to not kill our wallets... 😃
My idea about attending HiveFest in Amsterdam was the same as yours, to do as much networking as possible around the event... I had a problem in that my accommodation wasn't in Amsterdam and I had to catch the last train, so I missed some of those "parties"... That's why I didn't make the same mistake with Krakow and HiveBeeCon... Reserved accommodation close to the meeting point and had many small meetups BEFORE and AFTER the "event"! That's why, for me, this was a perfect meetup!
See you at the next one! :)
PS. Was your baby born or you are still in the "waiting line"? 😃
Glad that you learned from your Amsterdam experience and could thus enjoy the Krakow meet up to the fullest :) It was a blast indeed. Btw sleeping in the Kingdom was nothing short of an actual royal experience :)
Still waiting. Just like @evelychacin. She said that our babies agreed to be born on the same day, will see if that really happens :)
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