Curator Cat Considers: But Did You Put Any EFFORT Into It?

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I often think about the strangeness of trying to persuade people to become part of the Hive community and park their blogging/artistic/video content here.

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Then I find myself thinking about the many people who did — in fact — come here, parked their content here (some of which was quite good), and then they quietly disappeared, never to be seen again.

Aside from the proverbial "oh, it's too complicated" excuse, another thing I have heard a few times is that it's just too much work, too much effort.

Well, what did you expect?

I can guarantee you that mega YouTube influencer Mr. Beast didn't get to where he is now by sitting on his butt and complaining that it's "too much work!" That's not how you get 170 million subscribers.

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There's a hole in your thinking...

But Thus Goes the Whole WORLD?

This actually isn't the post about the state of Hive nor about the ongoing challenge of getting new people to join here. It's supposed to about the state of the world in general. And perhaps it's supposed to be about me realizing that some of us might have to face that we hold a point of view and perspective that's getting to be out of date, in some way. I don't know.

The "out-of-date" bit refers to the fact that I come from a belief system and a school of thought that getting some kind of success - be it minimal or extreme - ultimately requires a lot of effort. And if you don't put effort into stuff, you shouldn't expect any significant results to come out of it.

I think about many 30-somethings and younger we know, and although they are hard-working people by most standards, they lean towards expecting unreasonably high outcomes after unusually short periods of time.

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Our dear Daughter-Hooman started her new job about 6 weeks ago, and she's already starting to get upset about the fact that it doesn't feel like she's progressing after 6 weeks. I'm not actually faulting her or commenting on her so much as on the broader mindset that somehow 6 weeks has become "enough time" for serious progress to happen in the perception of everybody where that same progress 20 or 30 years ago might have been perceived as normally 6 months or even a year.

So now, let's carry that mindset back here to Hive and make it relevant to our community by simply asking "well if you're not enjoying any success did you put any effort into it?"

Or is the degree to which we expect to get success simply a reflection of our general accelerated world in which everything is supposed to happen right now? We've grown accustomed to the daily news fitting in a 256-character tweet instead of a 15-minute news story, so does that apply everywhere?"

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To use a parable of sorts, 30 years ago we used to buy products from catalogs by mail order. And the time that would pass between us filling out an order form (with a pen), putting it in an envelope, affixing a stamp, mailing it to the company and then waiting for the package with the goodies to show up... might take two weeks. Now we expect same day drone delivery from Amazon!

Now, I'm not claiming that I don't enjoy the fact that I can order products online and get them immediately, quite the contrary! The thing I'm questioning is whether this sense of immediacy reflected on everything from the Internet to social media to getting food, can actually be applied to all things in life?

Like, for example, building a following and a success on Hive.

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Or we could even take the time-honored example that it takes 5 years to become an expert at something; can we somehow compress that into becoming an expert at that same something in one year instead of five? And if that's what we expect, are we actually the same level of "expert" in a year that it previously took us five to become?

I would be inclined to challenge that notion! I wouldn't expect to be able to take up pottery, or painting, or neurosurgery, and suddenly achieve the same skill and expertise level in a year that previously took five.

My point being, we can't expect to apply the standards of the instant always-on web to things that have to occur in physical space, regardless of whether it applies to job advancement, learning pottery or succeeding on Hive.

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Much as those on the bleeding edge of Technology might like to think differently, we still have to keep what is virtual somewhat separate from what is tangible because they operate at different speeds. An hour is still made up of 60 minutes and that takes just as long as it always did; just like a year still has four seasons and is 365 days long. And there are only so many things you can cram into an hour!

Thanks for coming to visit my blog! Do feel free to leave me a comment! This is social media, after all, and our community could sure use a little more engagement!

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Love Cats? Get Involved in Hive's Cat Communties!

If you're a cat lover and often/sometimes post pictures or other content that includes your feline friends, why not become an active part of Hive's growing Cat Communities?

These are some of the more active Cat Communities — why not join them ALL? Many of the allow you to share your cat posts, even if you started at a different community!

HiveCats by @curatorcat is a central "gathering place" for cat content on Hive; promoting the use of the #hivecats tag for feline content!

Cat Snaps by @manorvillemike is a place to post pictures of your cats when you don't have a whole lot to say beyond just sharing your cute photos!

Caturday by @saboin is a community where we get to celebrate posts relating to Saturday — aka "Caturday" — our own special day!

Cat Photos by @andrarchy is a "mixed use" cat content community; posts can be just photos or longer, as long as the subject is CATS!

Cats by @captainklaus (and Sissi!) is another "general" cat content community.

There are a number of other feline communities listed on Hive, but I am not sharing them for now as they have not had any activity (by their Admins OR users) since the Steem/Hive fork. Updates as they become available!

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Thanks for the support! I appreciate it!

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Aside from the proverbial "oh, it's too complicated" excuse, another thing I have heard a few times is that it's just too much work, too much effort.

Well, what did you expect?

So much... this! I stopped trying to get my friends to join in Hive; still trying to tell everyone it exists, but I also tell them exactly what your post is about: if you're not going to show up, take 7 months to do an intro post, and not going to take your time to interact with the community... no point in expecting anything! !BEER

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Just stop with the nonsense. Please do tell us how posting pictures of people in various poses, mostly young women, with maybe a sentence or two attached is hard work that gets upvoted for dollars compared to people who do put in the time to actually write something and maybe you might get ten cents.

This place is so full of baloney that even if you like to eat baloney the baloney around here is spoiled. Look, if people have to go on discord and spend time talking to people about whatever just to get a upvote than that defeats the whole purpose, and might I add, takes time away from actually reading what people write and voting it. You are suppose to get rewarded for contributing to the platform, I didn't see anything in the rules about having to go join a discussion off board.

Most times when you do join a community the first time you post you get a pretty hefty sum in comparison to what you were normally getting. Like say five, six bucks, you say to yourself that that's more like it and you continue to write under that tag...but you will never see another five, six bucks headed your way.....but what you will see, if you check, people who write stuff that doesn't even come close to what you wrote at times and they continually get large upvotes. If it were up to me I'd be thinking someone padding their own pockets multiple times and that's why the platform doesn't grow.

But whatever, same day, different bull crap, no decentralization going on here but you can always come back and find what you put out there, which is about the only bonus being on this site has.

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I came to this platform without any reference, I'm not friend of any whale, nor do I belong to a self voting circle; yet, I´m close to reaching 10k Hive, and I've seen over and over again good content from new users and old users getting rewarded.

You are suppose to get rewarded for contributing to the platform

You are not entitled to anything when posting; you are supposed to SHARE content, whatever comes in your way after that is a bonus. Again and again I see that same mentality on and off chain: it's not what I have, it's what this and that have and I don't have equal because X.

Just my two cents.

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What I meant is to actually put in the time reading and interacting with post. I may have reworded it wrong but that's the extent of it. If people like a comment or a post THAT'S how you get rewarded not just automatic circle jerking, sock puppets upvoting accounts, self upvoting accounts, and no where was there ever a mention of contributing off block in conversations about who knows what.

I expected your reply because it's the go to reply of just about anyone when you make mention of how it's run rather than how you were told it was run. Seriously you people should just drop that line because no one would ever leave the chain if it ACTUALLY ran as described.

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Again, we clearly have very different experiences on the blockchain.

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Well, you address one of the great voids/shortcomings of Hive: You have to go somewhere else to have a conversation about Hive and about your content, and to find answers to your questions.

I think if this had all been designed with a resident "Messenger" type system built into the interface, this place would have taken off far more than it has.

The voting system is definitely flawed in some respects, but primarily if your perspective is that this is supposed to be a quality-based meritocracy. It's not. But I also don't think that's a flaw we can lay specifically at Hive's doorstep. If you go on YouTube, Tiktok, IG or somewhere else, the content that gets millions of views and creators with millions of followers are hardly the gold standard for "quality" anything... it's more a reflection that "mindless drivel" is what's being mass consumed in today's world.

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And the irony of that is apparently not "too much work" to spend several hours a day posting smileys on meaningless Facebook updates about nostril hair.

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I feel like part of a newer way of looking at things that is still missed and overlooked is the idea that being successful requires giving other things up.

Success can come quickly, but it requires that you give something (or many) things up.

I guess that isn’t very different from the idea of working hard. To work hard, you must work, which means you can’t do other things. But for some reason, we don’t like to say the words WORK HARD these days. 🤣

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I suppose we are saying something similar in the sense that the world seems to be growing more and more separation between "work" and "a successful outcome," increasingly as if the two are actually not connected.

Of course, "expectations" also enter into it, sometimes. People who come to Hive "expect" to be rewarded, so they won't spend time if they're not; people on Facebook (and elsewhere) don't expect rewards, so the three hours a day they spend there has a different "value," at least in their minds.

And yes, "working hard" is SO yesterday!

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When the idea of rewards enters the picture, and people see others being rewarded more than they are, suddenly everything becomes unfair.

That said, I do think that the balance of wealth has become so wildly disproportionate in the world today that there is something to be said about a certain bit of unfairness behind the economics of things and even about the workings of this blockchain to some extent.

But fair or not, consistency and work (hard or not) are necessary for most people to acquire and then hold on to things of value and positions of rank.

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